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Thoughts on the Cutler Saga…and how this HELPS the Bears

Unless you have been living under a rock, you have surely watched or read about the events last Sunday during the NFC Championship game regarding Jay Cutler. Just to recap:

1) Jay Cutler was injured at some point in the second quarter of the game; and left to the locker room BEFORE halftime;

2) Cutler played one series in the second half, then had some trainers look at his left knee;

3) Stayed on the sideline, apparently looking “sullen” and “disinterested” as Todd Collins and Caleb Hanie played out the rest of the BEars’ 21-14 loss to the Packers;

4) Current and former players immediately went to twitter, blasting Cutler for not staying in the game;

5) Reports began surfacing of Chicago fans burning Cutler jerseys in the streets;

6) Cutler had an MRI on Monday, revealing a 2nd-degree sprain of the medial collateral ligament (MCL) of his left knee.

First off, let me address the fans that BURNED CUTLER JERSEYS. If you are reading this, before you curse Jay Cutler; watch this:

Yeah. Steve Fuller. Rick Mirer. Cade McNown. Henry Burris. When JIM MILLER is the BRIGHT SPOT of the last 25 years…

Regardless of whether you like Jay Cutler, or his new girlfriend, or that he buy spots on NBC to announce his charitable contributions (ie, RICK REILLY IS A MORON)—then fine. But the fact remains that the Bears are NOT in the playoffs this year without Jay Cutler; and that we will NOT be in the playoffs anytime in the next four years without Jay Cutler playing at a high level.

Secondly, to all the current and former athletes who blasted Cutler on Twitter or youtube or NFL Network or wherever—You all know, more than anybody, what its like to have reporters or writers make judgements about you, without being privy to any accurate information; how it feels to have people tell you wat kind of person you are without ever having met you. Also, those in glass houses should not throw stones. So, Maurice Jones-Drew, maybe you should look back FIVE WEEKS, and remember that you missed the last two regular season games of the year, with a knee injury—and your team had a chance to win their way into the playoffs, just like the Packers did—now on their way to the Super Bowl. Deion Sanders, do you remember how many times you played in all 16 games in your 13-year career? 3. And one of those times was in your last season, 2005, when you were not even a starter. Derrick Brooks and Zach Follett and all the rest—when is the last time you played quarterback? High School? Middle School? Interesting statistic—of the 32 quarterbacks who started Week 1, only 13 of those started all 16 games.

Thirdly, to the Bears’ organization—this could have been handled better. ALOT BETTER. It is no secret that public perception of Cutler is shaky, to put it mildly. So, once it is decided to keep Cutler out, why not send him to the locker room, and out of the spotlight?  Why not come out and immediately say that Cutler had serious knee damage, and that’s why he was kept out of the game? Secrecy leads to Misconception, which led to the events that were mentioned above. The Bears could have done alot more to help Jay Cutler out in this situation.

My theory? Once it was determined that Cutler had knee damage, the Bears’ Coaching/Front Office thought about these factors:

a) Our offensive line could not black ANYBODY.

b) Green Bay’s defense specializes at getting after the QB.

c) One of Cutler’s best assets, mobility, would be gone for the rest of the game.

Maybe the organization was just happy to be there. Remember, at the point Cutler left the game, we were down 14-0, but it felt like 44-0. Why risk further injury to your franchise player by keeping him in the game?  Remember what happened to Favre when he tried to play against us while already hurt? CONCUSSION. And Jay has already had one of those this year. I applaud the organization for not begin blinded for the moment and doing what was best, in the long run, for Jay Cutler—again, I just wish they would have handled it differently.

NOW HERE’S THE BEST NEWS—Maybe the most effective motivational tool in professional sports is the “me against the world” card. So much so, that teams will manufacture stories play the role of the underdog that nobody believes in. SO, if Cutler is half of the  competitor that we are told he is and that I believe he is; the next four years should be VERY SPECIAL ONES at our Quarterback Position.

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60 responses

  1. lincoln1

    Hummmmm, its not only my opinion, but its also the opinion of most knowledgable people who have followed the league for years. the guy is uncoachable and that is unfortunate.

    I believe it was you who said somewhere on here that if Cutler had the WR’s that Rodgers had we would win the super bowl. I don’t believe that for a second. The pack WR drop alot of passes and created alot of turnovers this past season because they like to drop footballs when they are in the open field. Cutler is too weak minded to overcome that. He could have those Wr and when they would make a mistake Cutler would sulk and take it out on the field with him for the rest of the game. Those packer WR R very good, but they are also very soft and would not be good for a guy like Cutler.

    February 7, 2011 at 11:23 pm

  2. Lincoln1

    I do agree that irving got in because of the super bowls. Carters time is coming however. He will be there if not next season then in 2 years. The same goes for Tim brown

    February 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    • johnnyharvard

      I know, but its just stupid that an obvious HOFer has to wait. these gys are no more HOF worthy now than they were on the first time ballot.

      February 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    • johnnyharvard

      Well once again we’re watching two different games. You can continue to chose pessimism if you want thats your choice. But the Cutler thing is unfounded opinion based on only what you feel. If thats what you think fine, but lets not state it like its fact.

      February 7, 2011 at 6:41 pm

  3. Lincoln1

    Congrats go out to Dent. It should have happened a long time ago and maybe now even more guys like Covert and Hilge will get recognized.

    Deion Sanders is no question a HOF. He is one of the greatest DB in NFL history. if not for his arrogance people would not just look at his negatives. But the guy was a hell of a football player and deserves to be in the hall.

    As for this WR we signed I know nothing about him. I do know he signed with us other then with pitt, NE or Buffalo because he has a chance to play for us because those other teams are pretty much set at WR. Don’t be surprised if this is the only WR we get. As for DA he was gone the first time he was listed as in active. The guys is a tool

    February 6, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    • johnnyharvard

      Sanders was a specialist no a football player. Football players tackle. But he made plays, but he wouldn’t be a slam dunk if he didn’t attach himself to two teams that would’ve won without him anyway. When in Atlanta he didn’t lead anyone to a title. But yes he was a good cover CB and made plays in the special teams aspect of the game too.

      I think the Bears draft one I really do. Fantuz may or may not make the team. They will need bodies for camp too. I think with the offense having a year under its belt and a second full off season the playbook will be dramatically opened up. They will need more WR’s if thats the case. I do think they’ll go OT 29th but I think they’ll get a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure. I also think they’ll get a project guy later in the draft or as an undrafted FA. I know they signed Barnes again so perhaps he’s that developmental guy. They need to concentrate on offense this season since the last two drafts and free agency were heavy on defense. Those guys they drafted like Melton, Wooten, both Moore’s, Wright ect. should be ready and developed to contribute next season.

      February 6, 2011 at 4:54 pm

      • WHERE ARE ALL THE TWEETS ABOUT CHARLES WOODSON LEAVING THE SUPER BOWL WITH A ‘COLLARBONE INJURY’? LOL

        February 6, 2011 at 7:43 pm

      • Lincoln1

        I think the bears draft a WR, but the question is can they develope him. The answer to that is no. Look at what GB has compared to what we have at WR. Cutler has to get better on his game as well. It doesn’t matter who we have at WR if Cutler doesn’t mature into that QB that he has all the tools to be.

        At the 29 pick you go with the best player available. When U draft strictly on need is when you get burned. But thats how the bears draft.

        Sanders still was one of the greatest in the secondary and its a shame people don’t want to look at past all the negative that he brought to the table.

        and it completely sucks that GB has another super title under their belt. It goes to show what what can happen when you have smart intelligent football people running your organization.

        February 7, 2011 at 12:24 am

      • Moral of the Story: when you have a chance to knock a team out of the playoffs, you knock them out.

        But I disagree with you about the Packers’ organization. 2 years ago the fan base was calling for Thompson and McCarty’s head. After the playoff game last year, too. As has happened every year the past 6-8 years (with the exception of the NE-NYG Super Bowl), the team with the QB playing the best at the time won.

        February 7, 2011 at 8:12 am

    • johnnyharvard

      Well just think about it. The Bears played them blow for blow all three games and pretty much contained Rogers. You’re talking about both organizations like the Packers just absolutely whipped our asses up and down the field. That did not happen. So to dismiss the Bears out of hand like that is really irresponsible. I give the Pack all the credit in the world, but I also don’t feel for one second we’re not right there with them. A good off-season should close the gap quickly.

      As far as not developing a receiver the bears have better coaching on offense. Guys who know what a receiver should be. I’m not a big fan of Drakes though. I would replace him with Bruce or Holt. And if the Bears were smart they’d get a QB coach jay would respect. No matter the cost.

      Also as far as Jay realizing his potential just look at Denver. When he had the tools to work with he was spectacular. Put him on the Packers for example and guess what? He’s the MVP super bowl winner. Its the Bears job to make sure they give Cutler every opportunity to succeed. Everything should revolve around Jay.

      February 7, 2011 at 8:53 am

      • Lincoln1

        That playoff game was over very early. They could have very easily won that game going away. W are not close to them no matter what false hope people want to hold on to.

        As for Cutler there isnt a coach out there that Cutler would listen too. Its already been said. We could hire jeremy Bates and he would still be the same QB. cutler got to the NFL by doing what he has always done and he isnt going to change. There isnt a guy he will listen to.

        As for the weapons we don’t have on offense, they are not coming any time soon. The hguys we have know will be the same guys for the next couple of seasons. So either Cutler has to make these guys better, which a great QB would do, or we will always just be the same old bears who find a way to screw everything up

        February 7, 2011 at 11:12 am

  4. Thorsten

    seems like we have a new WR ‘prospect’ 🙂

    http://boards.chicagobears.com/forums/thread/2549739.aspx

    dunno if he’ll be more than camp fodder…

    February 4, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    • never hurts to bring a guy in and see what he can do (kurt warner, cameron wake of the dolphins, etc.) but i am not sold on baldwin either. seems to me like a guy who can only run go routes or end zone fades on tape. we need a guy who can fight off jams and convert those 3rd-and short yardages. unless by some miracle julio jones falls to us at #30; i think we should take the best player available from OL/DL/DB at #30, and wait until the third round and pick up a guy like Toliver from LSU, Pettis from Boise St, or Little from UNC.

      February 4, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        I’m with you. Best player available. The main thing is to get playmakers. Thats how you get guys who can play right away right out of college. With the many needs we have the chances the best player available will be at a position of need. Now if a guy grades out slightly less than another at a position of need I take the need guy, but if theres a guy at a position of strength overwhelmingly better than guys at a need positions you take the potential star. Its what Minnasota did with Peterson even though most their fan base was like what? We have Taylor! Bet they’re not saying that anymore.

        February 5, 2011 at 6:07 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        They also signed Eddie Williams, I think his name is, to a futures contract, so he’s replacing one of those TE’s. My bet is Manmaleuna unless he signs for far less than what he got way over payed for last season. I also think Clark is gone, because of playing time unless he’s willing to take less money to play less. I am a clark fan too BTW, but I’m with you I think they’ll add the extra WR this year and go 32 TE’s. They may draft one actually. Why not if theres a good one at a value spot in the draft. Like you said earlier take the best available. I really would love to see Davis’s snaps increased. I think he’s be a monster. I’m a huge fan of his. I think he can be a star at the TE position.

        February 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        By the way it was just announced that Richard Dent is a hall of famer.

        February 5, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      • Yeah, I am in the process of putting up a post that compares his numbers with others who are in the hall of fame. IMO his induction is about 7 years too late.

        February 6, 2011 at 8:44 am

      • I guess thats his reward for not ever being a self-promoting prima donna or coke-sniffing teen prostitute buyer, right?

        February 6, 2011 at 8:45 am

      • johnnyharvard

        Yeah thats the old geezer sports writers for you. I thought Chris Carter should’ve been in too. Ahead of Deion, “I’m footballs best false prophet rumor mongering sissy calling the kettle black,” Sanders!

        Shit ahead of Michael Irving. Its all about the damn super bowls. I think thats the dumbest criteria. In a total team sport where you’re as reliant on the role of the last man to dress as you are the top star to win its an unfair criteria. I think these dumb writers look at the fact the Bears should’ve had 4 super bowls and only had one that hurt him along with the fact the Bears have so many guys in already. I guess they want other teams to catch up a little before they start adding guys. Theres two more guys I’d like to see in there too. Jay Hilgenberg, and Jimbo Covert. Both the best at their positions in their era bar none.

        Going back to Dent its amazing how many more stats he’d have had if Ryan didn’t drop Dent into coverage so much. they credit LeBeau with the Zone blitz, but I’ll be damned if he didn’t get that idea from Buddy dropping Dent into coverage. Dent was as good a DE as any in the league. That includes Reggie White.

        February 6, 2011 at 10:09 am

      • not just that. but think about how many more sacks he would have today, as pass-happy as the league has become. i betcha there are 8-10 more pass plays per game than there were twenty-five years ago. which would mean 120-160 more opportunities per year to get sacks. he might have ended with 15-20 EVERY YEAR.
        and i agree with you, especially about hilgenberg. he was on par, if not better than, dwight stephenson in the 80’s. and he played longer, i believe.
        reminds me of the rock and roll hall of fame. its more a popularity contest than an accurate measurement of merit. LL Cool J is getting inducted this year. I rest my case.

        February 6, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      • it makes me wonder how many sports writers actually watch the games, and how many base their opinions on what they have seen on ESPN ( and now, the NFL Network).

        February 6, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Good point. It is a passing league now. Back than you’d have a team or two that would put it up like that, but mostly just a few. I did see a revival of the run game this season though. But getting back to Dent I think if you were a sportswriter in that era you watched the Bears if you wanted to or not because they were everyones lead story so I don’t buy tat when it comes to Dent. That team transcends beyond just football. Its a historical and cultural fabric in our society. I mean no team was or has been close to that cast of characters. I mean even the coaches Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka were a hoot. I actually think thats another strike against any player trying to get any football recognition because people tend to look at them mostly outside of football. But that team forced you take take notice whether it would be due to their dominance on the field and off!

        February 6, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    • johnnyharvard

      Yes I saw that. Te good part isn’t if he’ll work out or not its the fact the Bears are gonig after a big WR. A go u and get it kind of guy. Not what many think is Martz’ type of receiver. This is a good sign anf shows D

      February 5, 2011 at 9:15 am

      • I think this definitely means that DA is GONE. I also think that we will keep Olsen and Davis; get rid of Dez Clark and maybe also Manumaleuna; and add 2 WRs for a total of 6 on the 53-man next year.

        February 5, 2011 at 11:33 am

    • Here is some video on Fantuz:

      February 5, 2011 at 1:13 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Yeah he has his own cereal up there. I remember when they brought him in speculation was he’d stay there because he had it good there and was not only aid more but adored and made off field money as his cereal deal would attest to. But not only is he taking on the challenge of the NFL he chose the Bears over other teams including the Steelers, because of opportunity to play. He’s not coming here to be a warm body in camp. I think this guys a competitor as this highlight reel you posted shows. He attacks the ball. I like that! We haven’t had a guy like that since Marcus Robinson. To me thats the key ingredient to be successful in this sport. Competitive drive.

        February 5, 2011 at 6:23 pm

  5. Lincoln1

    When was the last time the bears actually developed a top notch WR????? I don’t trust Angelo to do that. He is a bad GM. I have not followed what WR that will be available through the draft, however i do know that the best WR very well may be baldwin from Pitt who we have no chance of getting

    February 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    • i actually think its julio jones from alabama. built more like megatron. aj green is listed as #1 on most boards; but he is more of a deep threat than anything, like randy moss. jones runs with violent intentions after the catch. but where the bears will draft, i doubt we get any of the big 3-4; we might have to settle on a DT or DB in the first, then get young from boise st or jernigan from troy—-and both are better fits than baldwin for martz’s offense.

      February 1, 2011 at 6:14 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        I think Martz will adapt to what he has. That offense is built to support any personnel. As a matter of fact Martz spoke on that very thing before the start of last season. Like Jerry says any system that doesn’t take advantage of players skills is a bad system. I don’t think size is a biggie. But quickness and speed is. Its a stretch the field passing game. Another guy that intrigues me the kid from North Carolina Greg little. From what I been reading about him he has a lot of upside and could be had as low as the 5th round. Seems like he’d be a nice developmental prospect. According to Walter football they say he is physically a better prospect than Brandon Tate.

        February 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      • I agree on the Martz thing. I just think its a waste to draft a first-round WR like Baldwin who has only shown that he can run go routes and fades in the endzone. I think we need a guy who can actually beat a jam and catch a 3-yard slant on 3rd and 4th downs.

        February 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Talk about violent intentions! Check this video out. Wow! I love this kid!

        February 1, 2011 at 7:42 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Well I’m not that high on Baldwin. Thats lincoln 1’s guy. I think he’s ok. A good possession receiver. But I’d much prefer Titus Young or Torrey Smith at 29th. Than I’d also pick up Greg Little who missed the whole 2010 season, but IO look at it as one less year of wear and tear. As I said Little will likely be had 3rd at the soonest. I would get two WR’s in this one if both were there when I picked. Than another Tar heel I like is Marvin Austin who can be had in the second round. He was another guy who was ineligible this past season. Phil Taylor from Baylor (wonder if he committed there because it rhymed with his name?) is a name I have on my mind. he dominated the all star game recently. I think he would cost a 1 for the bears to get him though. He’ll go off the board early 2nd otherwise me thinks. I wouldn’t spend a 1 on him as I would would one of these WR’s that’ll be there. I think the value is higher with them.

        February 1, 2011 at 9:01 pm

      • i think with Toiena and Adams being FAs, you gotta take the stud DT over a WR.

        February 1, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        I think bears will re-sign both those guys. They’ll be cheap. I think you get great value in the 2nd with a Marvin Austin. If Taylor sneaks in at 61 overall than Bears have a dilemma. I may have to take Taylor. He does have weight concerns. There’s a also a nice crop of DT’s in free agency, but who knows whats going to happen there with the uncertainty of the CBA. But with names like Ngata & Jenkins available that may be the way to go there. Lots of stud defensive players in free agency overall. If Bears want to add firepower on defense they can go a few ways. They can go CB and get Nnamdi Asomugha, or even Champ Bailey who shows no signs of decline. Theres some nice safties too like Eric Weddle who’s a stud, or Quintin Mikell who’s a SS but very good against the pass too. He can be easily converted I feel. If Bears want another End to put opposite Peppers and really put the fear of God in opposing offenses theres a nice crop. Guys like Tamba Hali, Ray Edwards, and Mathias Kiwanuka, Charles Johnson, Cliff Avril. Than you can move Izzy back to the 3 technique where he excelled the season before this last one.

        The Bears have a decent defense and some young kids they stocked up on in the prior two and three drafts. Its time to get that offense going. They have a huge investment of coaches and the QB and they need to get that right. Can’t win in this league with subpar offense. Just can’t happen.

        February 1, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    • johnnyharvard

      Well Angelo doesn’t develop them. You hope with the better offensive coaching with a couple of guys who actually know what a pro WR looks like, they’ll be scouting them for you. I would feel a lot better if the Bears cut the ties with Daryl Drake who seems to enable his receivers by kissing their ass instead of demanding they perform like NFL WR’s.

      February 1, 2011 at 7:11 pm

  6. Thorsten

    wrong as in Jay left the game because he was ineffective. First of, it wasn’t his decision, second he played nearly half the second quarter with the injury which made him miss two TD passes to wide open receivers, and 3rd of all, no he couldn’t go on playing with the MCL injury as an independent doctor clearly stated a day after the game. It’s really that simple. And I’m sure that Jay wouldn’t have been pulled out of the game without the injury but due to ineffectiveness. C’mon, do you really think the Bears pulled him out for that? They could have subbed half the D after the first half for ineffectiveness….How can you know that Jay would have stepped up in the second half too, just like the D did?

    See, now I did argue again on the matter.

    Ok, so no Fitz. Probably would have been to expensive anyway. And I agree we need to build through the Draft. But I’d like them to add some pieces through FA if it’s possible, especially to the O- Line.

    February 1, 2011 at 5:43 am

    • Lincoln1

      I agree it wasn’t his decision, but if you think that they would not have let him play if he were actually playing like an NFL starting QB with that injury then you are wrong. They would have. The facts was again for the 100 time is that he sucked. The first possession by the bears he over threw hester by 15 yards and that was long before he hurt his knee. And guys have played with this injury before. Guys have actually played with torn ACLS which is much more serious then an MCL injury. but if Cutler was horrific on 2 healthy knees then he never had a chance one one leg so they told him just to have a seat.

      That packers D was just incredible and as i maintain if Cutler would have been able to finish we would have been shut out. Thats how bad Cutler and the offense was

      February 1, 2011 at 9:02 am

    • johnnyharvard

      They will. The only question is how big of a name. One thing Angelo has been is an active GM on the FA and trade market.

      Another thing to keep in mind is the guys they brought in last off season. Although Wright is the top pick last year he’s not even 3rd on my list of interests from last years draft.. I’m very interested to see what kind of impact Cory Wooten, Joshua Moore, and supplemental pick Harvey Unga. Lets not forget about J’Marcus Webb, and the continued development of Henry Melton from the 09′ draft. . This could be a very productive draft class despite not having a pick till the third round. I also want to see whats up with this big Guard we picked up Herman Johnson. And lets not forget Lance Louis was looking well on his way to being a nice find till he got his knee hurt so you may have a decent core already in place. Time will tell if Tice can make something of these kids on the O-line. Asiata and Edwin Williams (who also looked good in his short stint on the line)are still young and developing and with a couple of seasons under the tutelage of Mike Tice who knows. Chris Williams looked salvageable at LG the last 7-8 game too.

      Its why I would really consider WR with the 29th overall pick. Unless there’s a true stud (which this draft doesn’t appear to have) at LT. I am intrigued by the name of Troy Smith though. He’s been mentioned as a bear pick in a few Mocks. But going back to WR there are three names that have come up that I like that will likely be there at 29.

      One is Len Hankerson from Miami who’s big at 6’4″ and has good hands, but he is kinda slow for a WR. May not fit in the Martz offense tat emphasizes quickness. The other two names are Titus Young from Boise State(who impressed at the college all star game they had recently and Torrey Smith from Maryland. Smith is bigger and almost as fast as Young. Young was getting comparisons to de’sean Jackson. Hopefully that wasn’t in regards to toughness.

      February 1, 2011 at 10:11 am

  7. Lincoln1

    I got new for you Rivers hates his guts. Rivers didnt really defend him. he said the whole thing was stupid and that the only way he would have not finished the game would have been by being carried off on a stretcher. again there is no reason for anyone to bash or defend Cutler because he got hurt. people get hurt. Its football. Thats not the issue. The injury took away from the fact that he placed a lousy football game yet people dont want to look at that and seem to continue to make excuses for this clown. and there are tons of broncos who never put there name to paper that did back flips once he was gone. They are wrong for not putting their name on it.

    As for his girlfriend you missed the entire point as usual. If you want to be so private, then you sure as hell are not going to date a celebrity no matter how hottttttt she is. So he isnt a private person by any stretch.

    As for Goodell he can put together all the proposals he wants, but if the owners and players dont agree to all the terms it really doesn’t matter. Right now the owners seem to want a lockout to try to make a point and the players are not going to back down. Its really ugly right now and will only get uglier once we get closer to march 3

    January 31, 2011 at 10:50 pm

  8. Lincoln1

    What am I wrong about???? Cutler is tough as hell. he never would have left that game with that injury if the game was going in his and the bears favor. Any person would have had to be wheeled out to leave a game when everything is going your way. But the truth is he was ineffective and then when he got hurt the game was all but over.

    Its very hard to find receivers like Marshall. They will look fore most at up grading the O line through the draft and probably maybe even look for a d line men to replace harris. But this team is not going to go through alot of changes because the bears don’t think they need to make any. They will try to up grade at oline some where and then they will think that will be good enough to get to the super bowl next season. They are wrong but anyone who follows this organization knows exactly that is what they will do.

    Fitzgerald is not available. Since trades can not be done with out a new deal in place Fitzgerald is not going anywhere this offseason. we need to start building this team through the draft and not just trade away picks. u do not build a quality organization through trading. Go out and draft a top notch WR and develope him.

    January 31, 2011 at 8:23 pm

  9. Thorsten

    ok, I’m not gonna go into this ‘why he left the game’ issue again. I will just say that I believe you’re dead wrong with what you wrote.

    Again, I don’t try to base my opinion on something someone wrote about someone because 99% of the time it’s not the truth. Especially when it’s some boulevard article or TV report.
    So unless I’m not there I can’t be convinced. But that’s just me.

    Now, as for the off season. I agree we need to fix the WR position. I mean Knox had a good season from a stats point of view. Bennett was the most physical receiver and made some strides in the second half of the season. But somehow he wasn’t present in the Green Bay game too. Still, he should be our possession receiver. Knox and Hester had soem moments, Knox more than Hester, but they need to get more physical. I guess we can use both for the deep ball and on screens and slants but that’s it I guess. So we need to get a No. 1 guy in the Draft or FA. V. Jackson might be there, but would he fit in Martz system, I dunno. That’s sth we need to consider. i always read, we need a BIG, physical, speedy receiver with good hands, running great routes. Yeah, well, no kidden’! 🙂 Some say we need someone who can go up and get the ball, cause Cutler was so successful doing that with Marshall in Denver. Yes he was, but he was in a different system back then. Martz likes his receivers quick and speedy. Not necessarily tall. Yet Calvin Johnson did very well when Martz was in Detroit.
    So I dunno. But I’m sure Martz will look at this WR class intensively.

    I also read that Fitzgerald might be available, but at what price I don’t know.

    Malcolm Floyd might be a ‘cheap’ option.

    Draft wise I hear many names but cannot really say anything about them as I do not watch much College Football. Any ideas who would be a good fit?

    Other then WR, O- LIne will be a big need as we all know. But I expect the Bears take a look the D- Line too, especially at DT. Might very well see us Draft a DT early.

    January 31, 2011 at 4:44 pm

  10. Lincoln1

    Just because a reporter asks a dumb question doesn’t give anyone a right to treat that person like garbage. I’m not sure if you have heard about what happened between him and Elway in denver, but that lunch/dinner tells you everything you need to know about the type of guy Cutler is. Cutler has never done anything to me, but i now people around the league who know him and know that Cutler thinks that this is world and everyone else is just here. again why alot of bear fans feel that it is necessary to kiss his ass at times just because he wear #6 for the bears i will never know

    As for feeling sorry for him because he was forced to leave the biggest game of his life due to injury, lets be honest, he left because he was ineffective. We all have watched football for a long time and we know that people have played with torn MCL’s in the past. Most importantly we all know that if he had thrown 2-3 TD’s and was having a great game the bears never would have forced him to sit. Thats the thing to remember about that game. Its not that he got hurt, its the fact that he was god awful in the biggest game of his life. and its not the first time that in a big game that he has failed to deliver. is it all on him, no, however as the QB when your passing rating is 31. whatever then alot of the blame falls on you.

    January 31, 2011 at 1:01 pm

  11. johnnyharvard

    Boy you hit it on the head. There were a lot of things that needed to be analyzed, but all this Cutler stuff kinda let em off the hook. So that sucks.

    I think we need to concentrate on offense. I know the guys are getting old on the defensive side, but there’s some kids that need to step up like Wooten, both Moores, Major wright, Melton ect. next year you can add more youth on that side. I think our top dogs still have a lot of life left in them on that side for next season at the very least.

    We need to address this WR dilemma. O-line of course, but that’s been talked about to death. I think its shameful that our WR’s could not get separation two straight games against these guys. Only Bennett and seldom used Rashied Davis have the sack enough to battle their secondary and fight for the ball,yardage, and separation. Olsen, Hester, Knox, and DA are far too soft to be the top targets. I think those guys on a limited basis are ok, but we need that ultra competitive, smart and tough guy running routes.

    January 31, 2011 at 11:25 am

    • Lincoln1

      we have alot of needs, and the best bet right now is to address them during the draft, which is not where we do our best work.

      Since there will be a lock out, there may very well be a swarm of players who resign with their teams before the lockout just so they know where they will be once this silly thing ends. There might not be as many players available, as people think, once a deal is reached. But come march, this thing is going to get really ugly.

      January 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Well theres a new report saying Goodell is working his ass off to put a proposal on the table that would get both sides to the table and in agreement to keep the golden Goose laying those eggs. We’ll see. If not yeah the free agent thing is going to be dry. Especially after the CBA is reached. Who knows how the rules will be.

        January 31, 2011 at 8:50 pm

  12. Thorsten

    hm do I feel sorry for Jay? Well, sure I do. He had to leave the biggest game of his career to watch it from the sideline. That’s a tough one.
    I dunno what Jay did to you that you don’t like him, he certainly did nothing to me that makes me think negative about him. I don’t know Jay, I have never met him and most likely will never know how he really is. And his indifference toward the media, speaking of interviews and all that, well I sometimes can understand it, considering all the stupid questions he has to face every day. I know that’s the business, but having a guy sometimes giving a stupid answer to a stupid question is fine with me. At least he doesn’t fake it like many others do.

    Of course I feel for Dez too. He is class guy from what I read at least and has given this organisation a lot. Still don’t know why he didn’t see the field that much. Must have sth to so with Manu making all that money.

    I actually agree about the Bears could have handled the situation better during the game. Having said that, it’s funny how all this diverts from way more important matters that happened on the field. Like us not being able to protect our QB, our WR’s not being able to get separation and some stupid coaching decisions.

    But oh, well, it’s all in the past now. It somehow still hurts, but then again I feel like we’re on a good path and I’m eager to see what we will do this off season to maybe get another step closer to our goal. And I think we might really go big this off season (if possible, not so sure how we can with all the CBA stuff going on)since I believe the organisation might also think, that with another couple of pieces added to this team, we can go win it all. Having said that, I feel like we have to do it in the next couple of years cause key players like Url, Briggs and Peppers are not getting any younger.

    January 31, 2011 at 7:25 am

    • Lincoln1

      Everyone hates the guy. its a fact. The broncos could not wait to get him out of the locker room. Urlacher hates the guy, but he needs him if he ever wants to win a ring. That is the only thing that matters to him right now. Urlacher is willing to support the guy because he needs him, else he would have already thrown him under a bus.

      U say Cutler is not a publicity hound. Then why in the hell is he dating a celebrity if he doesn’t like all the publicity. In his off time the camera’s are all around him now. For a guy that doesn’t like the so called publicity thats kind of strange don’t you think. If Im a quit guy the last thing that I would want to do is date a celebrity so where Im followed 24/7. So thats a bunch of garbage….

      As for manning his teammates would run through a wall for him. If U would say that u would take Cutler over manning or Rodgers at this time then U need to join Charlie Sheen at whatever clinic he is at

      January 31, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Again name ONE account that a teammate outed Cutler. ONE! All I hear from anyone that has been a teammate of his is positive. And that’s a fact.

        As far as his celebrity Girlfriend is concerned maybe he likes her. She is pretty damn hot! Cutler isn’t all over the place being seen with her now is he. Stop making things up to support your Deion Sanders like bashing without basis. Jay ain’t a phony so all the phony’s will hate him. That simple. All the quality characters defended jay. Like Brees, Rogers, Clay Mathews, Boomer Esiosin, and Madden. The idiots bashed him. Last I checked none of those guys have any reason to defend Jay out of obligation. Hmm. Hell even Rivers who had a feud with him sided with jay. So stay with the dope patrol.

        Here listen to this. both Ganon and Madden say they know jay and like him because he’s not a freaking phony like a lot of these NFL boobs!

        January 31, 2011 at 8:43 pm

  13. lincoln1

    John you dont get it. its about how you treat people. It has nothing to do with being rah rah. Its about when you you have a press conference you actually look at the reporters and don’t look at them like your shit don’t stink. Its about having respect for others and not thinking you are above anyone else. In Denver once he was gone half that locker room was willing to help him pack up because they hated him. The same thing goes on here in Chicago. That locker room hates him. Urlacher hates him, but urlacher also knows that the only chance he has to get a ring is by having Cutler play like a top tier QB so he has no choice but to support him. If Cutler ever leaves here a buch of crap would come out about him.

    And jay has to want to get better. In his years in the league he has been the exact same QB with the same piss poor mechanics that he refuses to change. Until he wants to be a top tier QB in this league he will also be just a flat out loser.

    January 31, 2011 at 1:03 am

    • johnnyharvard

      Its you who doesn’t get it. We had this conversation a long time ago. No one hated Jay in any of his locker rooms. There is not one comment that speaks ill of Jay in any way as a teammate from high school on up to this level.

      Jay is a private dude who keeps his business to himself. The fact is Jay is a small town kid from Santa Clause Indiana who could care less about all the hoopla. I mean look at how many commercials he’s been in. ZERO! He’s not an attention whore like all these other phony clowns (like Manning for example) fans like you fall all over yourselves for.

      As far as the media is concerned why would he want to deal with them if he’s not about self promotion. Their all a bunch of blood sucking vampires who’ll sell out their mom’s for a story. Jay don’t trust em’ nor should he. I wouldn’t deal with those clowns outside of my obligation.

      All this Jay hate is coming from people who have dealt little with him and know him even less. That’s how absurd all this crap is. Its a shame you have to fall for this crap. You need to think for yourself man.

      Anyway, all Jay needs to get better is more work on his footwork, the offense and most importantly better offensive teammates. Than Jay would be just fine.

      January 31, 2011 at 11:04 am

  14. Lincoln1

    Thorsten do you really feel sorry for Cutler though????? I feel bad for a gut like Dez Clark who did everything the bears asked him to do and then got screwed by the team. A really good guy like that is who I feel bad for. Cutler has made his own bed over the years by being a jerk to so many people, its really hard to feel sorry for him when it came back to bite him in the butt.

    January 28, 2011 at 2:13 pm

  15. Thorsten

    about the Cutler bashing: It’s a perfect example for how society is today. And I don’t mean American society but society in general, since something like this happens so often in many different sports, in many different country. It seems as if people need a scapegoat all the time when sth does not work the way they want it to. Rarely do you see the common fan saying after a tough loss ‘you know what, they gave everything they can, it wasn’t enough, let’s move on!’ And while Fans should discuss, like we do, about what maybe went wrong and where to find solutions, most of the times it all results in bashing certain people. Obviously this all is transferred through the media, and since it is their job to exactly do that, you can hardly blame em for it.Fans simply jump on it to quickly.

    I want to point out that this isn’t the case with everyone. Like in Cutlers case some people cleared their heads, took a breather and then analysed what happened. BUT if you look at places like the cbmb, it went nuts. Crazy really.

    Originally, I didn’t want to post on this matter anymore cause frankly for me it’s been said enough, but that’s how I feel about it.
    And I am glad that most off you here see it this way as I take it.

    Now let’s move on, and see what the future brings us and our team!

    Bear Down!

    January 28, 2011 at 9:23 am

    • johnnyharvard

      Well said. people are fueled by hate. Its just the way it is. Instead of talking about how a team won its more about who lost it and why. And I will say here in the states people are far more influenced by peer pressure and the popular thought and are easily influenced by the most insignificant of celebrities because they see it in print either on the Computer scree, television, or a newspaper.

      January 28, 2011 at 8:37 pm

  16. Lincoln1

    Cutler brigs all this crap on him self. the guy is huge tool who doesnt get the job done. The biggest game of his life and he sucks. Cutler is hated around the league because he is a huge dick who treats people like they are beneath him. if this many players around the league hate him, then we all know that you will find at least one player in that locker room who feels the same way. they will not say anything however because they know that unless Cutler plays like he has some sense then they have no shot at a super bowl so its best just to shut up and not say a word.

    The bears handled this situation very poorly from the start. as soon they they knew they were taking him out, grab him some crutches and throw some ice on that leg and wrap it so he looks like his knee is messed up. and then cart him to the locker room. Its all about perception and the bears dropped the ball big time

    And I believed that the bears pulled him knowing that they didnt have a chance with Cutler playing like that on a bad knee. He was horrible before the injury and the last thing they wanted to have happen was get blown out because a few more picks by Cutler and that would have happened. They had put faith that the D would hold and that hester would return a kick or two to get them back into the game because they knew they had no other shot at that point. They had no idea however that the packs special teams would play that well.

    January 27, 2011 at 10:43 am

    • johnnyharvard

      Jay doesn’t bring this on himself. Jay doesn’t do anything. He is not the phony ass rah rah guy that all the knuckleheaded meatball fans out there want to see like Favre or numb nuts Manning. The people who tweeted had agendas. They were just waiting for the opportunity so that it would justify their previous bashing. Not sure if you noticed all the people who defended Jay or not. Non teammates. Jays a dick how exactly. Give me one example of how he treated anyone badly. Just one. How bout Jay going to children hospitals and visiting sick kids without all the hoopla because he’s not doing it to prove himself to the likes of you. I mean he truly doesn’t care about what you or anyone else thinks and it shows. Often I hear people say don’t don’t care what people think than proceed to defend themselves like someone who really cares. Notice Jays not doing that. Why? because he don’t give a sit. He has nothing to prove to you or any of the other idiots trying to justify their hate for him because he doesn’t care what they think. Its exactly what I like about him. Nothing effects him. thats a great quality for the QB of the Chicago Bears. As this offense gets more experience and better pieces jay will get better and finally reach his full potential and finally shut these idiots up.

      January 28, 2011 at 8:29 pm

  17. johnnyharvard

    I’m not going to really much more on this because you pretty much nailed and I’ve been posting everywhere weighing in on this. I will mention that this irresponsible speculation is not that at all. Its a deliberate smear campaign by the vultures waiting to pick at the bones of the carcass. They know full well that once this is out true or not it will like its gospel. That’s the exact intent her with these boobs. BTW heres a breakdown of the hit Jay took to get the tear. Its a yourboyroy video on youtube. It appears the injury occured in the first series of the second quarter!. Interesting stuff. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/user/sportsfansnetwork

    January 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    • good things. even before knowing that he was already injured, i thought the stiff arm on the reigning DPOY Woodson was one of the most ballsy impressive plays i have seen from a QB in a long time. the block on walden was equally impressive after watching the film. I still contend that if anyone should be upset, it should be a) cutler at the bears’ organization for not doing more to defend him and diffuse the situation; and b) the offensive line play. it was pretty shoddy the whole time cutler was in the game.

      January 26, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    • i think urlachers interview was one of the best post-game pressers i have ever seen. the other one i heard someone say in response to all this—i think it was an ex-bear, maybe dan hampton or mark bortz—-“its easy to be brave with someone else’s body”.
      Needless to say, the little respect I had remaining for ex-players like Mark Schlereth, Deion Sanders, etc. is now gone. they can all go hang out with captain dipstick, rick reilly.

      January 26, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    • I think for every TD pass he throws next year, as a celebration Jay should point to his left knee with both hands.

      January 26, 2011 at 11:33 pm

      • johnnyharvard

        Yeah Jays not the kinda guy to brag about how tough he is by pointing out all his injuries that he played through or act up this big drama like Brett Favre and the rest of these guys who twitted about how tough they were by playing through injuries. They just had to let everyone know how tough they are so they can feel better about themselves. Phony’s with agendas. I’ve been bitching about those idiots for awhile though as you probably remember. I love Jays toughness. Keep him in this offense and surround him with more weapons and a bolstered mean line and Jay will be the bomb!

        January 26, 2011 at 11:41 pm

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